However, I, having used a Treo650, am tired that I have no IR or transmittal via bluetooth, MMS, additional memory card support, etc.

Sure, the screen is nice. The UI is pretty. I can’t run more than one application at a time? I thought OS/X was “better”…

I llike Apple (used a //e back in the day), and I use a mac laptop now. However, I won’t be getting the #G iPhone. I consider it a networkphone, and I want a smartphone.

I don’t want to HAVE to use the apple store. I want to MMS and send contacts to different folks without having to retype them or use a thirdparty app (that the person getting the contact would also have to use…).

So, it is winmo or Symbian for me from now on. Let me see…Nokia, Samsung, HTC, and LG are left?

Take a look at Stanza on your iPhone. It’s the best ebook reader I have seen on any mobile platform bar none. Its pretty much worth buying an iPod Touch just for this program. It allows you to copy any ebook format from your pc and read it on the go.

I personally have bought the Nokia usb charge and sync cable but I only find that I need it when I use my N95 as an HSDPA modem for long periods of time while travelling on business.

Not with a standard USB cable, but Apple uses a proprietory connector on the phone end of their cables instead of a standard mini- or microUSB plug. This means that Nokia and iPhone users are in the same boat when it comes to charging their phones from a laptop or other device with USB ports. They both need a non-standard cable or adapter for it, because the standard USB plug only works on one end of the cable.

Nokia and other phones all have an advantage that the iPhone lacks: if you pop in a spare battery you can carry your phone with you and keep using it while you recharge the empty battery. When an iPhone battery runs dry you’ll have to chain your entire phone to a power source. So when you travel to places where charging opportunities are few and far between, you’re better of with a 5800.

In Nokia’s defense, they’ve avoided USB charging on almost all of their devices for a reason – USB charging is often essentially ‘trickle charging’, i.e. large currents aren’t available. The end result is that a full charge of a 1300mAh battery takes 4 or 5 hours, not ideal when you want to grab your phone and go. A full charge on a normal 2mm phone jack charger from the mains takes only an hour or so. Just my tuppence worth.

Does the 5800 charge over USB. I should imagine that the ability to do so is vastly more important to 95% of the population than a removable battery.

In favor of the 5800XM:

- MMS

- replaceable battery, so you can carry a charged spare on a trip, or recharge an empty battery without having your phone tied to the charger

- memory cards that you can read/write without having to install iTunes or similar apps, which you can plug into other phones and card readers, or change for a card with more capacity so you can add extra gigabytes without buying a new phone

- a choice of web browsers and voice navigation programs

- using the software store of your phone manufacturer is optional, not mandatory

- 97 vs 133 grams. Sounds like a small difference, but put your phoe in your pocket when you go jogging and you’ll notice

- full bluetooth, including file transfer and stereo audio

- you can choose between finger and stylus input, and you don’t have to take your gloves off when you want to use your phone outdoors during a cold winter

In favor of the iPhone:

- it’s a bit thinner

- the user interface looks more polished

If you want to look at your phone, the iPhone wins. If you want to use your phone, the 5800 wins.

@ moylan
Regarding the camera “click” noise; just turn the profile to Silent and all is well. Not a great or convenient solution, I know. But it’s the only one most people are aware of.